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Home » Politics » ‘Are you OK making people worse off?’ — Derbyshire blasts Labour minister

‘Are you OK making people worse off?’ — Derbyshire blasts Labour minister

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Joe Connor by Joe Connor
March 19, 2025
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Victoria Derbyshire didn’t hold back when she confronted Labour minister Torsten Bell over the government’s welfare cuts.

Bell, a minister in the Department for Work and Pensions, admitted that some people will lose out under Labour’s £5 billion benefits overhaul. But that didn’t stop Derbyshire from pushing him for answers on BBC Newsnight.

Bell Dodges Direct Question

During Tuesday night’s broadcast, Derbyshire got straight to the point:

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“Are you OK with making people worse off?”

Bell’s response? A classic dodge.

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“Well, I’m OK with saying this system has to change,” he said.

But Derbyshire wasn’t letting him off the hook.

“The question was: are you OK with making people worse off?”

Bell tried to pivot, talking about the need for a sustainable benefits system. But Derbyshire cut him off:

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“1,000 people a day wasn’t my question. Are you OK with making people worse off?”

Bell doubled down:

“Well, I’m OK with building a sustainable system.”

Derbyshire fired back:

“If people are worse off, then so be it?”

Bell insisted that, in the long run, more people would be working and better off.

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“You don’t know that,” Derbyshire shot back.

‘Could You Live on £70 a Week?’

Later in the interview, Derbyshire raised concerns about young people being forced to survive on as little as £70 a week under the new system.

“Could you live on £70 a week?” she asked.

Bell admitted:

“Absolutely not.”

Derbyshire didn’t miss a beat:

“So why do you expect young people to?”

Bell tried to soften the blow, saying that housing benefit and personal independence payments would help.

But Derbyshire’s grilling left a clear impression: Labour’s welfare cuts are going to hit vulnerable people hard — and the government knows it.

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Joe Connor

Joe Connor

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